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Balancing skills. Part 2

The protection of Shield status increased from 25% to 33.3%.



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Grandiose :)

Dec 4, 2016 8:33:18 PM
Mystifier

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And still it is doubtful that the shield will be useful now. Now, if we add receipt points for its use… And for the finale seems to be very necessary.

Dec 4, 2016 8:40:58 PM
ALEXks

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And still it is doubtful that the shield will be useful now. Now, if we add receipt points for its use… And for the finale seems to be very necessary.

totally agree, absolutely pointless in the current state of Affairs with the same XP from the towers.

Dec 4, 2016 8:45:40 PM
SladeThe

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Grandiose :)

Requested the strengthening of the Shield? Will get :)

And the fact that the list of changes in each patchnote is reduced, is easily explained by the approximation of the rules of freezing (winter is coming, Yes) and lack of desire greatly to break up.

I think everyone is also no great desire to alter your strategy in case of strong changes of the balance sheet.

Dec 4, 2016 8:46:06 PM
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I would not say that the shield is useless spell. Can save you while you escape with a small amount of life, will eat a good chunk of damage when freezing. Yes, and this just helps to keep the line alone, against a large number of the enemy wizardof.

Dec 4, 2016 8:49:08 PM
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Requested the strengthening of the Shield? Will get :) And the fact that the list of changes in each patchnote is reduced, is easily explained by the approximation of the rules of freezing (winter is coming, Yes) and lack of desire greatly to break up. I think everyone is also no great desire to alter your strategy in case of strong changes of the balance sheet.

Thanks anyway :) Although fireball is now the best Ulta, it is necessary to switch to it in my opinion…

Dec 4, 2016 8:53:22 PM
SladeThe

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And still it is doubtful that the shield will be useful now. Now, if we add receipt points for its use… And for the finale seems to be very necessary.

I would not be so categorical. “Sotovik” gets only 4 points of damage from a single magic missile or 8 points of damage per 60 ticks in the presence improved the rockets from the enemy. At the same time, he in return can cause 12 damage in the same time. Of course, if not to reduce everything to a duel of magicians, earning experience with the Shield will still be less than with an offensive spell. However, you can teach strategy to behave more aggressively and, for example, to drive the enemy from minions and not let him get the experience.

Dec 4, 2016 8:53:54 PM
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> I would not be so categorical. “Sotovik” gets only 4 points of damage from a single magic missile

By the way, it is not clear how to calculate the final damage in the presence and absorptive abilities and status of the shield? I thought it should be something like (X - 4) * (100% - 33%). It turns out the opposite, first domogalla factor status, and then deducted the bonuses from the skills? Do I understand correctly that to attack staff damage will be 8? And the dart turns out all of the damage will not be?

About the patch, same problem IMHO is that this status is available and bypassing the study of this branch, through bonuses.

Dec 4, 2016 9:05:40 PM
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I would not be so categorical. “Sotovik” gets only 4 points of damage from a single magic missile By the way, it is not clear how to calculate the final damage in the presence and absorptive abilities and status of the shield? I thought it should be something like (X - 4) * (100% - 33%). It turns out the opposite, first domogalla factor status, and then deducted the bonuses from the skills? Do I understand correctly that to attack staff damage will be 8? And the dart turns out all of the damage will not be? …

“It turns out the opposite, first domogalla factor status, and then deducted the bonuses from the skills?”

Yes.

“Do I understand correctly that to attack staff damage will be 8?”

Yes, if without pumping.

“And the dart turns out all of the damage will not?”

No.

Dec 4, 2016 9:10:38 PM
SladeThe

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“It turns out the opposite, first domogalla factor status, and then deducted the bonuses from the skills?” Yes. “Do I understand correctly that to attack staff damage will be 8?” Yes, if without pumping. “And the dart turns out all of the damage will not?” No.

No, I mean will the damage :)

The Darts are not magic. Only -33% of the status of the shield.

Dec 4, 2016 9:11:38 PM
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Thanks anyway :) Although fireball is now the best Ulta, it is necessary to switch to it in my opinion…

Well, fireball is a very useful spell (you can get ~20 of experience per shot), but I think the best remedy is an ice arrow. If the duel between the “hyerbolise” and “monosilicon” (and health and mana is initially the same), then obviously the second wins, because it will freeze and give damage with an arrow (which by the way is 16 beats), a total of 24 + 16 = 40 for 60 ticks vs 24 + 24 from burning = 48 for 120 ticks. Repeat this if there is a duel (for example a bonus), in other situations, of course “hyerbolise” will sestrilevante a crowd of enemies and getting sickly profit from this, while “morosely” can not boast such a possibility

Dec 4, 2016 9:15:24 PM
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Well, fireball is a very useful spell (you can get ~20 of experience per shot), but I think the best remedy is an ice arrow. If the duel between the “hyerbolise” and “monosilicon” (and health and mana is initially the same), then obviously the second wins, because it will freeze and give damage with an arrow (which by the way is 16 beats), a total of 24 + 16 = 40 for 60 ticks vs 24 + 24 from burning = 48 for 120 ticks. Repeat this if there is a duel (for example a bonus), in other situations, of course “hyerbolise” will sestrilevante a crowd of enemies and getting sickly profit from this, while “morosely” can not boast such a possibility

I think the shield will still give the advantage to command the campaign, for example, when the foreign Ministry are 3-4 players. And if one will rock the shield and to impose on all, while and that would be very cool, and no fire will help =) and the rest to go in fighting ability. It is a team game should be, not parasitic.

Dec 4, 2016 9:41:00 PM
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I think the shield will still give the advantage to command the campaign, for example, when the foreign Ministry are 3-4 players. And if one will rock the shield and to impose on all, while and that would be very cool, and no fire will help =) and the rest to go in fighting ability. It is a team game should be, not parasitic.

A good strategy to get 5th place

Dec 4, 2016 10:06:45 PM
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A good strategy to get 5th place

status skills only for the finale.

on the Union of competitors who are unlikely to impose a shield :)

seen fights where one of their tops caught up and finished. spices felts felts a glitch is unintentional :)

Dec 4, 2016 10:45:22 PM
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Thanks anyway :) Although fireball is now the best Ulta, it is necessary to switch to it in my opinion…

I thought so, too, a few hours rewriting strategy for him. And were garbage. The problem Fayer bol is that if you go on line no borosilica. Then you will be all overtake to power bol, because staff rarely strike and the rest to damage a missile, and very tight when the enemy is already freezing and you have no fire yet. And in General, often this seemingly small moment in the party and resolved (for example on another track can be state)

Dec 5, 2016 12:13:21 AM
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status skills only for the finale. on the Union of competitors who are unlikely to impose a shield :) seen fights where one of their tops caught up and finished. spices felts felts a glitch is unintentional :)

that’s the idea … to finish the neighbor’s branch that used glasses not to share … tin, you had to do “all against all”

Dec 5, 2016 2:42:40 PM
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that’s the idea … to finish the neighbor’s branch that used glasses not to share … tin, you had to do “all against all”

Counter maze occupies 8 starting points and 1 finish point (the throne) with the intersection m\y 2-4th branches with a tower in the center (staging site for foreign) and large Central square with 4 towers around the throne (the main place foreign) )) the duration of the you can play 30000 ticks) To 25 kills or the fall of the throne)

Dec 5, 2016 2:57:58 PM
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Counter maze occupies 8 starting points and 1 finish point (the throne) with the intersection m\y 2-4th branches with a tower in the center (staging site for foreign) and large Central square with 4 towers around the throne (the main place foreign) )) the duration of the you can play 30000 ticks) To 25 kills or the fall of the throne)

Yes, something like a gladiatorial arena )))

Dec 5, 2016 3:07:24 PM
ALEXks

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A good strategy to get 5th place

it is a pity that the administration has not thought about promoting team play, because then everyone would have played differently, not all vs all. They only distort the balance of trying to help lower players, but only reinforce the tops.

Dec 5, 2016 4:58:10 PM
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it is a pity that the administration has not thought about promoting team play, because then everyone would have played differently, not all vs all. They only distort the balance of trying to help lower players, but only reinforce the tops.

I have implemented base defense if she is in danger. While I defend, the allies collect bonuses. At the end of the base demolished. Here it is all about teamwork.

Dec 5, 2016 5:08:28 PM
ALEXks

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I have implemented base defense if she is in danger. While I defend, the allies collect bonuses. At the end of the base demolished. Here it is all about teamwork.

This is not the correct distribution of forces between the lines and tactful strategies of the allies

Dec 5, 2016 5:20:30 PM
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ALEXks

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This is not the correct distribution of forces between the lines and tactful strategies of the allies

But how would I one 2-3 kept. So this is not an isolated example. If I helped we would not let them. But still the point is that the allies base didn’t even try to take. Bonuses and collected all.

Dec 5, 2016 5:27:46 PM